Comments for Christians outside normal church http://homechristian.wordpress.com Christians who are fed up with church but still want to follow Jesus Christ Thu, 07 May 2009 14:56:03 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on Is the Internet Good for God? by Temaskian http://homechristian.wordpress.com/2008/04/26/is-the-internet-good-for-god/#comment-38 Temaskian Thu, 07 May 2009 14:56:03 +0000 http://homechristian.wordpress.com/?p=26#comment-38 You're right. It's good for God, and very bad for the false preachers. I once asked my pastor how he felt about the fact that everyone is just as knowledgeable as him now that the internet age is upon us. His face turned green. I had not even meant to be offensive, but I think he didn't take it very well. I thought he would reply something along the lines of knowledge is one thing, but being spiritual is another. But he didn't. You’re right. It’s good for God, and very bad for the false preachers.

I once asked my pastor how he felt about the fact that everyone is just as knowledgeable as him now that the internet age is upon us. His face turned green. I had not even meant to be offensive, but I think he didn’t take it very well. I thought he would reply something along the lines of knowledge is one thing, but being spiritual is another. But he didn’t.

]]> Comment on Preoccupied with self by jacqui http://homechristian.wordpress.com/2008/10/14/preoccupied-with-self/#comment-37 jacqui Sun, 29 Mar 2009 08:59:43 +0000 http://homechristian.wordpress.com/?p=42#comment-37 Yes! This is very true. I love your blog, it is quite refreshing for me at this time in life. Yes! This is very true. I love your blog, it is quite refreshing for me at this time in life.

]]> Comment on Is religion responsible for all the world’s problems? by yunshui http://homechristian.wordpress.com/2008/04/07/is-religion-responsible-for-all-the-worlds-problems/#comment-36 yunshui Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:39:41 +0000 http://mychurchhome.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-36 I just wanted to say thank you for a well-thought-out, reasonable and rational post - not what I've come to expect from Christian commentators on this topic! I agree with your conclusion that people, not ideologies, are fundamentally the cause of society's problems, and I like the way you use Stalin & friends as examples of ideological tyrants rather than atheist ones (again, not something I expect to see on a Christian blog). Nicely put. My one criticism? You <em>can</em> make <a href="http://www.outdoor-cooking.com/banana-ketchup.html" rel="nofollow">a tomato sauce with bananas</a>... I just wanted to say thank you for a well-thought-out, reasonable and rational post – not what I’ve come to expect from Christian commentators on this topic! I agree with your conclusion that people, not ideologies, are fundamentally the cause of society’s problems, and I like the way you use Stalin & friends as examples of ideological tyrants rather than atheist ones (again, not something I expect to see on a Christian blog). Nicely put.

My one criticism? You can make a tomato sauce with bananas…

]]> Comment on Being a Christian is easy by Mike Ege http://homechristian.wordpress.com/2008/07/19/being-a-christian-is-easy/#comment-34 Mike Ege Mon, 20 Oct 2008 22:21:49 +0000 http://homechristian.wordpress.com/?p=39#comment-34 I think that the machinery of the local congregation has distracted us from what really matters - relationship with Jesus, and that is why the yoke isn't a light one. When we can get back to simple faith, the burden will be lifted of heavy christianity. I think that the machinery of the local congregation has distracted us from what really matters – relationship with Jesus, and that is why the yoke isn’t a light one. When we can get back to simple faith, the burden will be lifted of heavy christianity.

]]> Comment on Christians judge me. by bythemethod http://homechristian.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/christians-judge-me/#comment-29 bythemethod Sun, 06 Jul 2008 10:18:07 +0000 http://homechristian.wordpress.com/?p=28#comment-29 Thanks for the comment. My friend has a strong Christian faith but is outside the church because of the tongue wagging and finger pointing that seems to have become the norm for church goers these days. Her judgement will be by God of course and not by us. I don't approve of what she has done myself but then I am a sinner as well and as much in need of his forgiveness as anyone. I don't have the right to tutt at her sin while I am a sinner myself. Now if she were trying to become a church leader there might be other questions to answer but all she wants to do is to worship and follow Jesus. Holiness comes from God and not from anything else. I would hope that the church would be full of happy and unholy people. If it can only be full of unhappy and holy people or happy and holy then what hope is there for anyone? Surely the church should be full of happy and unholy people. Unholy because we all sin and happy because they know God forgives them if they repent. Then we should trust God to expose their sin to them - through the work of the Holy Spirit (which may include clear teaching and helpful support from the rest of the congregation). Once exposed they need to repent. How will people ever repent if they are forced to defend themselves in the church? Surely we want people to change not to force them to take a defensive position. All I ask for is that the church be more welcoming to sinners instead of telling sinners they are not welcome. Thanks for the comment.

My friend has a strong Christian faith but is outside the church because of the tongue wagging and finger pointing that seems to have become the norm for church goers these days. Her judgement will be by God of course and not by us.

I don’t approve of what she has done myself but then I am a sinner as well and as much in need of his forgiveness as anyone. I don’t have the right to tutt at her sin while I am a sinner myself.

Now if she were trying to become a church leader there might be other questions to answer but all she wants to do is to worship and follow Jesus.

Holiness comes from God and not from anything else.

I would hope that the church would be full of happy and unholy people. If it can only be full of unhappy and holy people or happy and holy then what hope is there for anyone?

Surely the church should be full of happy and unholy people. Unholy because we all sin and happy because they know God forgives them if they repent. Then we should trust God to expose their sin to them – through the work of the Holy Spirit (which may include clear teaching and helpful support from the rest of the congregation). Once exposed they need to repent.

How will people ever repent if they are forced to defend themselves in the church? Surely we want people to change not to force them to take a defensive position.

All I ask for is that the church be more welcoming to sinners instead of telling sinners they are not welcome.

]]> Comment on Christians judge me. by gcmwatch http://homechristian.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/christians-judge-me/#comment-28 gcmwatch Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:17:17 +0000 http://homechristian.wordpress.com/?p=28#comment-28 Just a comment. The church is not the place to "be holy". Holiness is transcendent of the church. It has to be otherwise, many people would be barred from being holy. Take the emphasis off the church and put it on Christ. True holiness isnt church membership but relationship with the Holy One. Your friend will have no excuse when she stands before God because he never said we had to attend church or be accepted by the church to be holy. Even if the church were 100% hypocritical, there is still no excuse for not having a relationship with Christ. If that is her biggest excuse to not having a right relationship with Christ she is in more trouble than she thinks. Even telling people that "God loves them" is an ineffective message unless that love is understood to be an active force of change and transformation. Without it youll only have churches full of happy, but unholy people. Thanks Just a comment.
The church is not the place to “be holy”. Holiness is transcendent of the church. It has to be otherwise, many people would be barred from being holy. Take the emphasis off the church and put it on Christ. True holiness isnt church membership but relationship with the Holy One.

Your friend will have no excuse when she stands before God because he never said we had to attend church or be accepted by the church to be holy. Even if the church were 100% hypocritical, there is still no excuse for not having a relationship with Christ. If that is her biggest excuse to not having a right relationship with Christ she is in more trouble than she thinks.

Even telling people that “God loves them” is an ineffective message unless that love is understood to be an active force of change and transformation. Without it youll only have churches full of happy, but unholy people.

Thanks

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